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cube

Congratulations. You know you hit a nerve when they send someone to post a plausible denial to your claims.

jan

Ironically I was willing to accept that they had some studies more substantial and up-to-date than this pathetic pdf.

Linda Kaim

They will never be able to substantiate the claim. There is simply not enough evidence nationwide to support it. Credibly anyway.

threecollie

Yay, Jan! I do not understand why people get all excited about where someone else gets a dog. I bought mine or bred them, because they can do the work I need them to do.

rosemary

Hot Damn, Jan....you go girl!!!!

Denny

When I tried to go to the HSUS website that Hillary gave all I got was this message, “The webpage cannot be found.” They must have taken it down to prevent people from discovering their manipulations of the truth. She still did not answer the question as to how they knew these dogs were purebred without knowing their lineage. Good retort, Jan.

jan

Denny, That's weird. I get the HSUS website on both her comment and this post. Try it again.

Tom and Icy

My dog Icy did a study on cats and concluded they are snobs.

gus louie and callie

Wow we did not know that. Thanks for setting everyone straight..

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Sling

...I've done some independent research on my own..exhaustive,if I do say so myself,..and have concluded that Tom and Icy nailed it most eloquently.

matt

In my experience with shelters, the purebreds are the ones that usually go the fastest, especially the smaller dogs. What's left are all the mutts and big dogs that no one wants.

Khyra

I was at a shelter (SPCA)....I was a problem Sibe...I kept running off and the stoopid people that had me chose to surrender me rather than khome up with a fencing game plan

Hugz&Khysses,
Khyra

Cait

I think one of the other problems with this statistic is that it's misleading as to what KIND of purebred. I would be willing to bet that you could walk into just about any shelter in the country and find something that is reasonably credible as a purebred lab or pit bull (whether you mean Amstaff or APBT). That's a far cry from the shih tzu, papillon, mini schnauzer, sheltie that people seem to be looking for - and even designer 'poo dogs' seem to be at a real premium.

Hillary

I agree that we need more up-to-date research on the characteristics of dogs in shelters, including whether they are purebred or mixed breed. The authors of the study I cited interviewed people who were surrendering their animals, so presumably the label of “purebred” was defined by the owner. But focusing on whether the percentage is 25 or 10 or 50 is missing the larger point: the HSUS doesn’t have a problem with responsible hobby breeders who do just what you mentioned in your original article; namely, breed dogs with care, socialize them with love, and take any dog back into their home if the adoption doesn’t work out. This is a very different scenario than mass-breeding facilities where dogs spend their whole lives in wire cages with no socialization, minimal veterinary care, and complete disregard for genetics or temperament.

Of course we’d love it if people found the dog of their dreams at an animal shelter, but the key is in making a thoughtful decision about whether to add a dog to your life, finding one that fits your lifestyle, and not supporting puppy mills in the process. Fortunately there are many wonderful animal shelters, breed rescue groups, and yes, reputable breeders to fill the demand. So at the end of the day, I’m not sure our positions are really so far apart.

jan

Hillary:

I think we can all agree that puppy mills are evil. Unfortunately HSUS has lobbied for legislation that would hurt responsible breeders and responsible dog owners. Criminals will continue to break laws no matter how many laws are passed.

YesBiscuit!

If someone does conduct an additional survey on purebreds in shelters, I hope they include the things you addressed in your previous post to indicate how many purebreds are truly AVAILABLE to the public for adoption. And please, let's get some experienced breeders/breed enthusiasts in to consult on the IDs. I don't care what the "real" estimate turns out to be, so long as it's an estimate based on good research.

jan

Good point. I think dog show judges might also be involved. Since they all have a stake in an accurate count, breeders and judges should be cooperative.

jackie

i repeat..they can kiss my ass..doggie killers..

Jennie/Kahshe Cottager

Interesting ... In my limited knowledge, many breeders of purebred dogs here have a return policy in their purchase agreements should the owner be unable to keep the dog for whatever reason. Our dog club also operates a rescue for our breed in order to keep them out of shelters when/if they have to find a new new home. I believe that most of the purebred dogs that end up in shelters come from unscrupulous, backyard breeders or puppy mills who have their animals in such deplorable conditions they are raided. In many incidents this results in media coverage and a run from the public to adopt the animals. Unfortunately many of these dogs are in terrible condition and too many must be euthanized.

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